Update from the previous tale and the tale of two more blue paws


Since my last tale more information has gotten to me.  Thank you for shedding more light on things.  So for heraldry it’s more broken down like this;

“Book Heraldry



Voice Heraldry




Protocol and Precedence

Heraldic Display

Silent Heraldry [recently reintroduced and starting to get some traction]

Ceremony [we don’t do this much outside of Coronation, but it’s a category some people work in]”

(credit for Master Rowen Cloteworthy for breaking this down for me)

What I was referencing from my own point of view, as a Provincial herald, as well I am sure a shire, canton, or even a riding herald. You could be the catch all for all above.  If you are able to get deputies, this does free things up, and as well makes things a lot easier for the Pursuivants, all together.  Now do not get me wrong, I love being a herald. The joy that I do find in being one is something that I equal to being an archery marshal, or even more so when I was a heavy list fighter.  The added benefit is that for at least in my neck of the woods, many of the duties listed above, are not something that many would seek in being a herald.  Especially the book work, I have heard that more than once that “it is so dull”.  Thank you challenge accepted and I would say done to a degree that is on par as I can do at this stage, for there is a lot more learning to go.

The next part of this is without a doubt the biggest joy that could ever come to me.  Back some time ago when I took the post of Blue Talbot Herald, the discussion was to recognize those heralds that have come above and beyond the call and should been seen within the herald community for the work they have done ( I refer you to the “the tale of the blue paw favors”)

This past Birka I had the distinguish to even in front of the Senior Staff of the East Kingdom College of Heralds (man got to love how that worked out).  To recognize two more:


Lijsbet van Catwiic:


You have pounced when I needed a hand for the last couple of Great Northeastern War.  I have watched your progress from beginning herald to what you are now.  It was an honor to present my favor to you.


Cassandra Hobbs



Oh where do I begin.  You have been my right hand for the last 2 great northeastern wars, especially last year when in a since I was pulling double duty at the same time.  I have seen you as a Baronial Herald and learned as much as I can from you as like I said at Birka, “pulled my head out of the fire not once but twice”

On the side note I giggled to see these two at court at Birka Lijsbet receiving her AOA, and Cassandra becoming part of the Order of the Silver Crescent.  Great job to the pair of you, you make being your Regional Herald a joy.


Till next time

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The Tale of upcoming challenges

Greetings one and all

So, the next set of challenges will be approaching for me.

How do I mean you may ask? Well I have compared (contrary to some conversations I have had in the past.) I feel that just like a good heavy lister, fencer, archer, artist you need to be familiar, maybe not an expert however, feel comfortable with each part of that chosen path.

How do I mean about this?

Ok, take this for example. A marshal in heavy list understands and can relate all the weapons forms that he will be expected to marshal. (Sword and board, two stick, pole arm, great weapon) for example. A marshal for archery understands even if at a minimal to be comfortable to inspect equipment for longbow, recurve, and cross bow respectfully. A fencing marshal understands all forms within that field of study.

Heralds: Well we come in what I am understanding four different types; Book, Court, Field, Voice (not covering tourney voice heraldry more incline to announcement crying and general loudness)

Book Heralds, spend the time to learn how to research, look up names, learn blazon, construct emblazon, fill out the forms (correctly so blue tyger never twitches) communicate with clients, track submissions, and something I need to work on even if I pic an hour each month, comment on submissions in OSCAR.

Court Heralds: If you are the lead court herald, whether Baronial Court, or Royal Court you need to speak with the Majesties, or their Excellences, and get the Docit together for court, work with the scribes that will be bringing the scrolls to court, organize all other heralds that will be assisting with court, and read the scrolls in court of those receiving the awards.

Field Heralds: A field herald comes in usually that I have seen in tournament settings. Most Notably in Crown Tourneys. Getting out there, being loud and proud, and making sure you have the combatants’ names if not perfect, as close to perfect as you can get, and don’t forget probably titles.

Voice Heralds: Majority of this that I have come across, and I am certain there are parts of this I have yet to come across and will explore this as it comes up, is most notably in crying the camp. Getting the announcements, finding help to cut the path that you will take easier and more manageable, as well being again loud and proud and project so that all those that you have to announce for understand what you have to say, and know what you have to announce.

Now here comes the challenge. How does one understand those parts in a way to be seen in those regards? Well for the most part is getting out there and doing it. For the most part this is not an issue for many.

For me.   Well I suffer from something that many do have, however for me it’s a bit daunting. Being loud and proud is never an issue. However I have stage fright. This is something I have battled even growing up and the idea of speaking in front of people a bit overwhelming.

One or more people have mentioned to me “if it is such a chore, why do it?” to me this is something that is within the next steps of how I see playing this game.

If a heavy list fighter wishes to be better, they must be seen fighting, field battles, tournaments, and wars. Same can be a kin to the fencer. An Archer wants to hit the Grand Master Bowman, or even win Kings and Queens, needs to go out and shoot. So for a herald? Go out and do it. So for me that will include, work through my fears and work at these things.

Now with Court Heraldry, where as a Baronial Court maybe easier to work with then say Royal Court, which can be an avenue to train under. See how a Court is assembled, how the Docit is put together, and assist in reading.

Field Heraldry, same situation, if there is a time to be a field herald, and also providing that I am not running into a real life vs SCA life, then go out and participate as a Field Herald, Learn to pronounce the names of those competing, even if not there physically, and thereby get comfortable on how a field heraldry works,

Book Heraldry, I would love to say it is easy, in my regard it was easier than the ones above, learning on where to go to research the names, know how a device goes together, become familiar with the SENA or at the very least know where to go to ask for that help. Once you get familiar of how it works then you start to see the number of paths that you can take, as well start to pick up the tricks. It is quite similar to above, however this is also the boring part as a lot of people may not like Book Heraldry vs the rest, for it is not as out there, it is a ton of behind the scenes work, the sheer volume of submissions that you can do, especially at Heralds Point at an event, or even at Pennsic can make all the difference.

To face these challenges is going to be a task I take on myself, and even if I travel more north and south, and look at the baronial heralds and offer my services, with that be able to assist the royal heralds when they come into my region.

I look forward to this and feel pretty confident this is a good way to go.

Yours in Service


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The Tale of the Great War

Great Northeastern War this year I knew would be exciting however I never knew how exciting that it would be.  Setting up Heralds point can be a challenge to predict.  Will you get clients?  Will you have either internet via hot spot or have enough books to handle the clients that you could get?  Will you have any clients?

With some of these hurdles I started an active campaign to get as many clients that were interested before the event, so that way I had the access to all that I needed and their bye have them researched, prepped, printed, colored and ready to hand back to clients.

I find this way of prepping for an event, efficient for the clients who maybe busy with other parts of the event, or may not have the time to hang around heralds point as we do the leg work.  This way they show up, double check things, get their paperwork and head off to fight, fence, shoot, make pretty things. All easy.  The part I never suspected was the amount of clients I would get before the event.

23… yep 23 submissions.  Now keep in mind that sounds like a lot, however if you think of one client could request a Name, Device, Badge or any combination of those.  So one client could have 3 submissions just by themselves.  Now with that said keep that total in mind for the prep work was wonderful, and the assistance I got at GNEW was fantastic.  However 23 in lack for a better term Pre reg submissions became the tip of the iceberg.  So let’s look at them shall we?

Fionn mac Con Dhuibh

Ahhh Fionn, such a good friend and I really still giggle on this one.  So Fionn wished to do a badge.  What is a badge you may ask? Simple a badge is a small device that you have registered to you that states “this is mine”.  Where your device is saying “This is me” your badge is like your cat and marking those things that belong to you.  Well that was part one.  Part two was the design.  His device of “Azure, three orbs argent.”  He wished to take one part of his device, in this case an orb.  And incorporate a stags head into it.  Wait I know I have seen this before.  Oh wait I have seen this before, right Jagermeister.  Well ok let’s see, this is different enough from the logo, well let’s see if this has happened before.  Head right over to OSCAR and do a search, and find a similar badge, check for differences, and set it up for Fionn.  Meanwhile wait for all the Jager jokes to begin.  “Sable, a stags head cabossed and between the antlers an orb argent.”

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Arnora Bjolfrsdottir

Arnora is a wonderful Viking name.  When I say that it is like several names that I have had in the past, go to the webpage pic from the Female names, then go to male name pic your daddy, add some Patronymics and easy peazy done.  So then all you have to do is make sure there is no other Bjólfr’s daughter named Arnora in the known world.

Her device was a bit different, she is into brewing so we knew there would be bees and she loved a sun to be included with it.  First we started with just a Sable back ground with a Or sun and up in the chief area include two Or bees, looked simple should be fine, and go to do the preliminary conflict check and run into conflicts.  With a mullet of eight points, and an 8 pointed sun.  Sun and stars really? Ok well let’s look into this.   We did have one DC for the background but the conflict and position was making it difficult to clear for the second.  Switch the chief to have a Or band, change the bees to sable, and then give it a good contrast, add at least 2 differentials.  Run it through the conflict check and get clear.  Hope this goes through for I so adore how this comes out “Sable a sun and on a chief Or two bees sable


Bassi Belasson

A friend of mine fiancé, and really easy Viking name, where as he chose the two names, I showed him what the patronymics would be, peace tab an into slot b and there you go.  Quick and simple love them


Cailte Crobdurg MacScandal

Ahhh my friend wanted a badge with elements of his device “Sable, on a fess between three domestic cat’s heads caboshed argent three triquetras vert. Ok, he knew what he wanted it was a manner of placing all the pieces together.  Sable from his background, the cat’s head (and people say I am going to be the crazy cat guy), and one of the three vert triquetra, the only difference was to tattoo that on the cats head.  Interesting and then I saw it when it went together.  Nice, run it through the conflict check and then the conversations start about making the triquetras bigger, talking over with Cailte in trying to figure out if an inverted triquetras to fill in the forehead better.



Fedor Bogunov

A new guy to the area, and wishing to do a Russian style name and device,   Russian outside of Vodka and Chekov I have yet, nor have much time to explore in this area, ok here we go.  So the given name that he was looking for was specific, however what he was looking for I could not find documentation for however after looking down the period names I can see, we did find one that was so close that it was pronounced quite similar.  Sweet we can do that, ok so his surname posed to be a little tricky.  You see that where as  many cultures are “son of” or “daughter of” this area and time frame, do a total change on the placement of letters in their name that make it “son of” or “daughter of” and it latterly took both us many exchanges and quoting the same thing before we helped each other understand it better.

With Fedor’s device it was a bit tricky where as he really wanted a man holding a spear (after a conversation about trying to make it proper with a red sash, pale skin, black facial hair, and the difficulty we decided Or would make It less complicated and make it easier for submission, he also wanted two bears combatant.  Ok no problem however how the best way to keep from slot machine?  Place the bears in chief and the human as the primary charge slightly larger and moved down.  Now with this there was a unity of posture rule issue.  Where it is a list of postures and orientations that can be used to determine whether two charges or groups of charges conflict.  (Yep a mouthful).  With this device fortunately the bears and the humanoid are in different catagories. So their positions didn’t cause conflict.

Azure, a Turk affronty maintaining a spear, and in chief two bears combatant Or.

Fedor Bogun color

Frederick van der Veer

Ahhh Frederick, how I do enjoy the bardic times we have shared, your name was a good lesson for me.  Frederick was in itself difficult to find, in any various forms out there for where he was working for, and then as if it was fate or pure luck I ran into his given name.  As far as his surname, well let me tell you I absolutely LOVE family search.  There are a set of guidelines from the college of heralds on how to use it however at the same time as long those guidelines are used, the searching becomes sooooo much easier many of times.  Anytime I start running into a road block I go there (and who would thought I would find van der Veer there)

His device I latterly got, “I want a swan displayed flames, and crescents in the bottom.   And…. Go” well ok a couple of quick thoughts along with this and come up with “Per fess rayonny argent and gules, a swan displayed sable, and in base two crescents argent”

A bit of warning with devices like this.  The swan has a thing we call a Step from Period Practice because the only thing in period was shown as displayed would be Eagles.  So any other displayed bird we do show in herald, just out of the time frame of the sca.  Step from Period Practice can happen but each client is only allowed one.  So be very careful when you run into these.

Fredreck2 color

Lasair an Dunaidh

Ahhh Lasair, how I love your clan, and at the same time there are moments I want to drown my sorrows.  Ok, first name, Thanks to someone who owns I book that I have about Irish names and just had him take a picture of the page and entry.  Glad I got that book to avoid that again her surname is easy right off the medieval name archive at the academy of saint Gabriel.  In many cases easy is wonderful.

Her device on the other hand became a wonder.  As I was working on another member of Thunder clan they stumbled on a charge which was a stag’s antlers in annulo conjoined to itself Or.  In a nutshell it’s their thunder wheel.  The debate came upon is that we have documentation for a 6 spoke wheel, they wished for 8.  This I had to go back and forth with other heralds and the finial thought of that we have one that has got approved before, there is no source to determine the number of spokes (for better term) so run it and let Wreath make the final call.  So with her favorite colors of purple and black add a frog and we get “Per bend purpure and sable a stag’s antlers in annulo each conjoined to itself Or and a frog tergaint argent.”

Lasiaar 3 color

Nasir ibn Makki

A good friend of mine got into the sca and decided to want an Arabian name; anyone who has known him will know this is really no big surprise.

After doing some research on names for that area and time.  And even though his persona is being set as an orphan, their naming culture still always would include the ibn for son of.  So like Norse and other patronymic naming cultures, it really is you son of, or daughter of, dad or mom.  Sooo pick from column A and pick from column B and we throw in ibn and name game set match.

His device has one thing on it that for the life of me I really dislike in heraldry.  Not because I find it a bad peace of heraldry, no not at all, I find that the rules within the SENA as well every time one of these it is almost the rules change.  What am I talking about? I am talking about chevrons or even inverted chevrons.  Why could these be a difficulty? Really simple it’s the matter of how much they take on the shield, and after a couple of College rulings on the matter, I always have to see help when drawing these for I have had devices get rejected for improper chevron depth, angle, or what not.

Ok so after getting assistance about how the chevron is going to look and we talk about color patterns, the talk of charges come up, he wanted a bat for one, (and again anyone who really knows Nasir knows this is a no brainer).  The final part is he wanted a  triquetra within the mix,  well with a chevron this developed a problem do to the way a triquetra was as well  fitting it right.  It was decided that inverting the triquetra was better for the fit. It really does bring it out.  Now a thing about the bat.  In heraldry we do not call it a bat.  They are classified as a reremouse, mmm ok flying mouse not a bad thing after all.

So we come up with “Per chevron inverted azure and sable, a triquetra inverted and in chief a reremouse argent

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Ranka Sviensdottir

Ranka was one that I have worked on before, however she felt that her original name was harder to pronounce.  So what we found was a name that rolls off the tongue better for her, and really feels that it fits as well.


Roland de la Mar

Roland was a first for me, for his name was already registered, however he wished to just change his surname.  Interesting for when I get someone that is wishing to update his name it’s usually a whole thing at once, I have never had to just change one element.  So the question is what it that we do for documentation for this is.  Well in this case what we do is document the name element that he wishes to keep and then notate which LoAR that it passed on and then after that just document his surname.  This was an interesting search for where I could not find documentation anywhere I normally go for this name.  I went to the OSCAR.  This is where all names, devices, badges, etc. go through for their process for submission.  Did a search for de la Mar and found multiple entries.  So that is where the leg work has been done, grab a good entry and then add it to the form.  All set and done.


Johannes von Braunschweig

Johannes was a fun one, where as I do not normally do any Germanic naming at all, this gave me a opportunity to look at that area and see how naming would be for the time, add to it the von in his name is an indication of a place name.  This develops an interesting challenge for a book herald.  Why is that?  Well let’s look at this place names can be as simple as find a location, however was the town in existence back within period time?  Or even better was it spelled the same way in period?  It is these two questions that make documentation tricky, for anyone can do a wiki search and find a location that is within period.  This is normally not advised as Wikipedia is never to be used for official documentation however can be used for a starting point to look.  First part, find out if the town existed in period, ok check, that we do show that it was established, and fortunately  this is where family search became a life saver.  If you take the modern spelling von Brunswick, and input it into the search engine, chances are at times small but then you can get lucky.  In this case family search gave me a proper spelling, and many different documentation sources.  SCORE


Marie D’Agincourt

Marie I was surprised with her name, she sent me the request for a name that was on her AOA, this can be either very easy or a frustration for if a gentle gets an award before they submit their name, it is possible that either one, their naming construction is not period, or two their name is taken by someone else.  So going to Academy of St Gabriel on this one and do a quick couple of browses on Flemish naming and found in one shot her given name.  Her surname took a bit cause there is obvious known location of Agincourt, however it was the idea of how this to be constructed.  Run to OSCAR figuring that someone had to have put in a locative place name of Agincourt before and got really lucky.  Not only is there documentation however also documentation for the D’ to mark it as a locative and that she is from Agincourt.

Her device on the other hand is one part ok and the other part has me sooooo cautious.  See the lady in question is a gamer geek, and those who know her know this well, hell her vehicles license plates are listed as “Nat 20” so what was her first request, twenty sided dice as part of her device.  Now for those that browse the web, we have found that gaming in period and thanks to many Archaeologists there is evidence that more than the traditional six sided dice in existence, however in heraldry there is little to no existence that was use in heraldry.  So how do we work this?  Use the mathematical definition of a twenty sided die which is icosahedra.  There is a precedent that this has gone through once I can hope that the two that she wants will go again.

per pall argent, purple, and azure, a cinquefoil vert and two icosahedrons argent

Sparky background color

There was a few more that came before however to give them a proper entry I will have to start part two for them.  For the rest of this I would love to take the opportunity to thank all those that came to assist at heralds point.  As one of my duties as regional herald is to “Assist the Eastern Crown Herald when the Royal Progress comes to the region.”  Well as real life can have a way to do so, the Malagentian herald had to stand down from her office.  For the record I do not fault her, I know what she has been going through and did support the decision.  Granted the timing was a bit off but hey that is how we play the game.  Well with her standing down someone needed to stand in as herald as the province get nominations, elections, etc.  (or find a willing candidate, hog tie them and throw them into the ring).  That was a no brainer; I jumped into that as pro temp.  So with this I was covering two aspects.  Local herald, where at events such as this, Heralds point, is your primary concern.  Second part toward that are my duties as regional herald.  Assisting the crown herald, I really like, for I get to see and learn a lot of the behind the curtain and learn how court comes together.  For reading scrolls, I am as green as green can be.  I have been told that I can project well, however I have a stage fright like there is no tomorrow.  Best way to get over this.  Read, read and more read.  Ultimately for me I would love to get the words to scrolls at least a month.  So I can research pronunciation and how that all goes together.  Well in this particular case GNEW was a fun but yet tiring challenge.  How do I mean, well follow this.

So as close as we were getting to GNEW the work was coming in for the pre-game work, wonderful, and then word came down how many courts there would be at GNEW this year.  First round it was one LONG court, second call out was a couple of LONG courts (and when I say LONG I mean over 3hrs) and then I hear many smaller courts throughout the duration of the war, and three Large courts, one on Friday night, another on Saturday morning, and the traditional court on Saturday night.  I show up to the staging area, and find out there are 79 pieces of business.  Whooo ohhh lets do this, (meanwhile my mind is thinking this will be a LONG day) so start working with the court herald in prepping for Friday night court.  Just a few pieces of business for this one where the Orders of High Merit will be rewarded and one Knight going to vigil.  And that is where it hit me.  Well not to get to deep into it, I am helping getting things all in place and I look and go “why is my name here”   As I was to be brought into the Order of the Silver Crescent.  I needless to say floored however job still to do.  This was going to be my first time playing rear herald.  What I was to do, was to follow down the court report, and have things ready for the court herald reading.  When mine name was called, I hand the book to a fellow herald, walk up, kneel, and let it all flood in.  As soon as the order welcomed me as one of their own, and then it was “Back to work”.

Saturday morning was one of those that you learn two things, pacing yourself and drink at every opportunity you can.  Saturday morning was where the bulk of those getting their award of arms, and those being sent to vigil for the peerages they would be entering.  This proved to be where I had the problem.  Not because I was nervous cause believe you me, I was.  Cold reading is a special thing many people can do, where they can look at words for a scroll, in like 3 min or less, and nail it at court.  Me, on the other hand prefers preparation.  So a couple of scrolls that I was ask to read had a couple of hick ups for I was not sure of the flow.  Here is what I will mean by this.  If I had read a scroll in the comfort of my own place a couple of times, that I can rehearse how the words go together and feel the cadence if you will of how the scroll sounds.  And when reading it in court I have little anxiety over what I could be if read cold.  One person asked if this is something I am not comfortable doing why do it?  Simple this is a challenge and a personal battle, and as part of my job there by it’s personal to overcome my own anxiety to help make court run smooth.

Overall a wonderful weekend and the fun begin as I update the Order of Precedence.


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Tale of the blue Paw favors


One of the things in becoming northern region herald (from now on just saying Blue Talbot) is that I had wanted to show heralds that might go otherwise unseen at least a good way of saying thank you for their hard work and continue wishes to continue their hard work in Heraldry for their area.  Upon conversation with the Elmet Herald, our East Kingdom Educational herald;

“We have a bunch of senior heralds, a bunch of very much newb heralds, and nothing in between for an intermediate herald pool”

Hmmm ok noted so time to start recognizing those that are not newer heralds but yet not senior heralds (however they classify that)

And during the announcement of the regional offices someone inquired about my title of Blue Talbot.  It was referred to in the past as the “blue’s clues” herald.

Wait what was that?

Hmmmm ok I can sooooo run with that

Running on that idea I had a couple of favors made, simple white field with blue paw print within a blue bordure. See below.

Dog_paw_print_black original idea

and then with help of a wonderful Laurel



Two heralds one not within my region however I have been in many classes with her, and she has shown herself a herald of great ability, willingness and joy to work with.

The other I have recently started to learn about, I attended a recent class with, she organized heralds point, and has shown herself to be a wonderful herald, and the recommendation from her Pursuivant was the seal of approval.

Lady Muirenn ingen Dúnadaig



Lady Matilda Wynter


Thank you for your wonderful service, looking forward for working with you some more, and please if you see any herald in need of the paw, let me know🙂

Yours in Service always



Blue Talbot Herald


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The tale of new position, new challenges


I know it has been a while since I have posted within these pages.  Within the last couple of months I have to step away from being Malagentia’s Herald, as I have been asked, and accepted to be a Northern Regional Herald (Blue Talbot Herald) for the East Kingdom.  Needless to say I was one part surprised, one part honored, and one part going “Holy sh*t, what have I gotten myself into”.  So with that I wanted to take a bit of time and compose my thoughts correctly so that way I can articulate the change from my own eyes.

For many the promotion from local to regional may not seem that big of deal to them, or then again may seem to them. “Well now that I am regional I can relax a bit.” For me it was a bigger set of responsibilities, and like times of the past.  Give me something I can run with, I will do what I can to run as hard, and as fast as I can.

Ok, so we have an idea what is to be expected, and we have an idea of what is to be looked into.  Yep, I can do this.

So, to go on was to reach out to all Pursuivant Heralds, get contact information, membership numbers. The works to get a northern region data base up and running.  Not too bad with the exception of Kingdom Law changes about shires either would have a knight marshal, or a herald.  And let’s face it I know well to, sticks are sexy.  So I roll the dice when I search out on their websites and emails to the various lists I am on whether what kind of reply I would get.

The one province I have and the two Baronies answered wonderfully and came for the moment of truth, out of the twelve cantons or shires that are out in the northern region, would I hear a reply back.  My honor and surprise was that a good portion of them do have heralds.  My joy could not be more wonderful as to as an office, a herald can be a wonderful factor to have in any local group, for name and device submission, to keep track of the local rolls and honors of their local group, and so on.  So to see so many that are not required to have someone in the office, to have not only heralds within their local group, however enthusiastic heralds at that.

I am looking forward to my time as Blue Talbot Herald, as this will be an adventure in a totally different light, As well as the occasional name and device submission I can lend a hand in, after all that is my first love, and after all who would want a registered name and pretty device to call their own.


Till next time

Conall an Doire

Blue Talbot Herald

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The tale of the Frog, the Owl, and the bacon

I know it has been a while since I have posted anything, however the fall actually brought some delightful changes and as I am working on developing into a new roll.  More on that at a later installment, this time I wish to speak about some of my last entries before the change.

Lasair is a good friend from thunder clan, she pops up one day requesting to get her name submitted and device as well, I considered this an honor where as 90% of that clan is all Norse, so to work on something one had wanted and it’s not Norse but Celtic?? Ohhh heaven.

First this is also where I want to say, if you have the chance to pick up Irish Names by Donnchadh O Corrian.  Do so, there is so much information that is in there that the Academy or many online search forms may not have, then I highly recommended.  With that said guess where her name was found.  Yep.  Right here.

After hours of searching online, including a failure using family search online, had to ask where she found it.  “Well Cailte loaned me his Celtic book”… “Wait nuf said.”  Open up separate PM.

“Hey dude can you do me a favor and tell me what page Lasair name is on”

“You really need that book.”

“Yep I know it is on my wish list”

So after a bit of a conversation and digital pic of the book later.  Her surname was a bit easier, after all there was some browsing and compromise to work it just right, and she loved ‘an dunaidh’ right away.

Her device was easier to set up, she showed me something that she had been working on for her lord.  The device itself is a bit easy all together, and those are ones I like to work on the most, for they are want the client wishes, they are simple, and they are quick to put together.  The trick with these devices is that it’s also easy to run into conflict.  So far so good as it goes into work we shall see.

Lasair an Dunaidh I give you

“Sable, a frog tergaint argent, in chief a sun OR”

Lasair color

Ahhh the family grows yet again another member of the Oak, has decided to get her name and device through the works, now granted since this is written her original device had bounced for color on color, which I will admit I should of foresaw beforehand, however as many different things that we have to do and all the rules that we have to chew through, sometimes the easiest ones can just pass by, at that point I made a vow, put every device on the FB heraldry page, and baby heralds page, for the multiple eyes can help before the client send it out.

Name first, and I must say easy peazy.  First of all surname, done deal and archived, grab the same info as the last time done.  (Got to love it when that comes together) next stage is her given name, thank you for being you and doing the research herself.  Sent her the site to go start, she kicks back with a period spelling of her real name.  SWEET, how I enjoy those.

As far as her device is concerned, it was

Gules, a owl displayed argent in chief sable three crescents argent


All we did to make things easier is to make the line division in half to a per fess, and adding a bordure gives another point of difference just to play it safe, and look sharp as well.  So my fair oak, I am honoured to get your owl off the ground and start the journey.


Sarra an Doire

“”Per fess gules and sable, a owl displayed and in chief three crescents argent, all within a bordure argent”

Sarra an Doire color

Finally today is one I found a great giggle in making reality,  Nevel is one of the primary people in baconpalooza here at the Great Northeastern War.  And all the side comments her wished for his badge were right up that ally, I did a rough idea, posted it in the heraldry FB group and weeded out all the bacon proper comments lol I was able to see there was no conflicts nor issues we can see presented it to him and hopes all go well

Nevel Sudlow

“Argent, three barlets wavy palewise gules.”


till next time


Conall an Doire

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The tale of the Rose, and the Clover

There are times with devices that I can see just by the conversation with the client, on what they are looking for, so the challenge for me becomes, looking for the right line division, if any, add the charges in the locations that they client is looking for, and add the color and case closed.  There are a few devices that are not so cut and dry.  For those I help the client try to see as I do and lead them toward a way that would be a combination of what they are looking for, and what I feel would be met with approval with The College of Heralds.

Both of these individuals I have known for a while and where it was a joy to get their documentation all in order.  At times I need to remember I am learning another language and a set of guidelines that are not too familiar with it.  So it’s not the manner of them not understanding so much on the way I am describing, however it is more so me reminding myself to play translator and see it from their point of view.

Both their names were either a cross of looking up them under any of the various English links in The Academy of St Gabriel.  The other part (usually their surnames) came from one source.  And this is a source that I would use as a stable in constructing a consultation table, or a traveling consultation kit.

Withycombe, E.G. Oxford A Dictionary of English Surnames

I sooo love this book.  For where there are many that would like to have English name, within the period that we play, chances are that this book is where I am going to find it.  As well as with it on the “no need to photocopy “list makes it more so whereas saves time and worry at many events.

There devices were a lot of work. And this is where I will go on about the process.

First of all for Ms. Steele:  She at first was looking for a quarterly (or a shield broken up in four parts) with a color and different charge in each quadrant.  Rule one for this would been the marshalling issue that I have become more and more familiar with as of late.  The issue becomes, each quadrant becomes a bit more complicated when you start looking into the colors and different charges and over all becomes harder and harder to pass.  How do you give what she is looking for and at the same time, make this somewhat a bit easier for the college to accept.

First started with the background; Instead of quarterly, take a page of her lord’s shield.  The both liked the colors red and white, so divide it at an angle top right to bottom left, make it red (gules) and then white (argent).  Now I know what you must be saying “Conall isn’t that going to make a conflict between the two?”

Under normal circumstances yes, if that was the only part of the device. Here is where the charges are going to come into play.

For Mr. Midnight what we did for him was take a tower make it Or (gold) place it on the red (Gules) section, and on the white (Argent) side, then place a four leaf clover.

For Ms. Steele we have the same colors and line divide however in this particular case we take a white (argent) rose and on the white (argent) section make a black (sable) cat.  On top of that fix a black (sable) bordure with a semi of acorns in white (argent) and between the charges, the border, the semi of acorns we get many ways to clear any conflict.

So I give to you

Rose Steele

Per bend sinister gules and argent, a rose slipped and leaved argent and a domestic cat rampant, a bordure sable semi of acorns argent.

rose color 2



Edward Midnight

Per bend sinister gules and argent, a tower Or and a four leaf clover vert

edwarde midnight color

What did I learn from this, what the client originally may not work, and if that is the case do not get discouraged, however act like that tour guide and guide your client into a way that works for them and the college at the same time.

As well as because you are a herald that is learning the rules, remember that you are on the other side of the table before and with that, remember you need to play translator in turning heraldieze into English so that they see things as you do and will never get frustrated in you because they do not understand exactly what you are talking about.

Till next time


Conall an Doire

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